http://spaceengineerswiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Battery&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Battery - Revision history2024-03-29T06:20:11ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.28.0http://spaceengineerswiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Battery&diff=14553&oldid=prevDraygo at 04:32, 23 September 20152015-09-23T04:32:55Z<p></p>
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</table>Draygohttp://spaceengineerswiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Battery&diff=14552&oldid=prevSeamus Donohue: /* Battery charge lossiness issues */2015-09-23T00:32:05Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Battery charge lossiness issues</span></span></p>
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</table>Draygohttp://spaceengineerswiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Battery&diff=14546&oldid=prevSeamus Donohue: Created page with "==Battery charge lossiness issues== Space Engineers version 01.100.024 Based on my own testing, I believe that batteries are NOT 100% efficient when charging under any circu..."2015-09-22T01:34:15Z<p>Created page with "==Battery charge lossiness issues== Space Engineers version 01.100.024 Based on my own testing, I believe that batteries are NOT 100% efficient when charging under any circu..."</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>==Battery charge lossiness issues==<br />
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Space Engineers version 01.100.024<br />
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Based on my own testing, I believe that batteries are NOT 100% efficient when charging under any circumstances, not even when charging from Solar Panels.<br />
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I made a largeblock ship in Creative, put 100 Solar Panels (total output 12 MW, what the battery claims to accept), a Cockpit, and a Gyroscope on it, pointed it right at the Sun (using a non-rotating Sun), then removed the Gyroscope and put a Battery on it. I then switched the game to Survival mode, waited to make sure the Solar Panels were generating 120 kW each (so about 10-20 seconds), then set the battery to Recharge On.<br />
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The initial time estimate said that it would take 15 minutes to recharge. I clocked it with a stopwatch at 19 minutes, 40.83 seconds. That's 3 Megawatt-hours in 1181 seconds (rounded off). 3 MWh = 10800 Megajoules. 10800 MJ / 1181 s = 9.1448 MW, or about 76.2% of 12 MW.<br />
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So, not only are batteries lossy when charging from any source, the "Fully recharged in" time estimate is lying to us.<br />
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I also noticed in other testing that batteries are lossy when charging from other batters, so I think that this lossiness is on any battery charging regardless of where the energy is coming from.<br />
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I'm updating the wiki article accordingly.<br />
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--[[User:Seamus Donohue|Seamus Donohue]] ([[User talk:Seamus Donohue|talk]]) 01:34, 22 September 2015 (UTC)</div>Seamus Donohue